So, I have a question about Liber Jugorum. I’m interested in the disciplines it recommends, but I’m skeptical about the actual technique. Namely. O. 0. Behold the Yoke upon the neck of the Oxen! Is it not thereby that the Field shall be ploughed? The Yoke is heavy but joineth together them. Behold the Yoke upon the neck of the. Oxen! Is it not thereby that the Field shall be ploughed? The Yoke is heavy, but joineth together them that are separate.

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So, I have a question about Liber Jugorum. The Middle Pillar exercise has nothing to do with cutting yourself or cultivating discipline, per se.

However, the Liber Jugorum instructions relate to both discipline and punishment. The most common alternate version is wearing a rubber band around your wrist and snaping it everything time you slip. In other words, a substantial guilt-complex is engendered.

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In any case, why do violence to the body when the fault lies with the mind? Perhaps Jugorum works well for certain people, but based on my own personal constitution, I think it could have unintended side-effects. Frightened, as someone pointed out, of saying the wrong thing, or making a mistake.

I used to bite my thumb in place of the razor. But a snapped rubber band elastic sounds more hygenic. This is the quote from Remembering Aleister Crowley which a previous poster included, and which I assume occasioned your remarks:. Since Grant here appears to be talking about the long-term results of this practice, rather than the duration of any single episode of practice, how does your remark bear on this? I have done Liber Jugorum a bunch of times every now and than.


The way I approached it from my understanding of it, which could very well be wrong, was simply to make yourself aware of how much jugorkm the ego has on your everyday life.

I believe that this practice has helped me out a lot though. I was wondering what their relationship to the rest of Liber Jugorum might be?

I would recommend the exercise regardless of Grant. It does produce fear of failure etc. But though I did trouble over that, I found that went away. After the first exercise of Speech is successful, that fear will vanish. I recommend one stage at a time, not all three.

Then, later I moved to actions: That was an odd twist i added. But it was interesting.

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Thanks for your thoughts, Baccus. Nothing jumping out for horse or ox currently nice question though, never really thought about it.

In this way, the Unicorn water and the Horse fire are balanced in the middle path of the Ox air. Viewing 15 posts – 1 through 15 of 27 total. November 4, at 3: November 4, at 4: November 4, at 5: November 4, at 6: An interesting comment on this practice by Kenneth Grant: November 5, at 1: Any more input is still appreciated.


November 5, at 5: Here are the practices.

Techno Jugorum

Each may last for a week or more. November 5, at 8: November 5, at It is not a practice I would recommend because the long term result is not control of thought and speech but, rather, a lessening of spontaneity and a dread of making mistakes.

December 18, at 3: January 14, at 8: January 14, at 1: January 14, jguorum 9: Anybody got any info regarding the symbolisim on which I was inquiring? February 20, at 1: March 1, at 7: I hope this helps clarify for some. You must be logged-in to reply to this topic.

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